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	<title>Comments on: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: A List of Compliments For Michael Bay</title>
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	<description>Ruminations on Film, Life, and the Unimportant Things In Between</description>
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		<title>By: guru</title>
		<link>http://thepasswordisswordfish.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-a-list-of-compliments-for-michael-bay/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the movie was out standing but my brother told me that micheal bay showed Optimus prime the most and we were not able to make up what was the name of the decptecons which were fighting with the aurobots but the movie was inbelivable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the movie was out standing but my brother told me that micheal bay showed Optimus prime the most and we were not able to make up what was the name of the decptecons which were fighting with the aurobots but the movie was inbelivable</p>
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		<title>By: colabrese</title>
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		<dc:creator>colabrese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first movie I walked out of in a looooong time. Fucking unbearable, I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first movie I walked out of in a looooong time. Fucking unbearable, I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: russellhainline</title>
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		<dc:creator>russellhainline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good catch on Skids, Sean. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch on Skids, Sean. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this great post! I look forward to reading more from you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great post! I look forward to reading more from you!</p>
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		<title>By: russellhainline</title>
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		<dc:creator>russellhainline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Jones: I&#039;d say it&#039;s easier to create a psychological drama regarding a vengeance-filled human than it is to create a meaningful drama regarding alien robots who are engaged in war. But maybe that&#039;s just because on TV and in movies, I&#039;ve seen Batman work on that level, but never for Transformers, which was always just alien robots engaged in war. 

I do believe something interesting can be made from Transformers. I&#039;m actually working on an article about it right now. My piece was meant mostly ironically. 

Sidenote: TDK had its share of editing problems too. But I digress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Jones: I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s easier to create a psychological drama regarding a vengeance-filled human than it is to create a meaningful drama regarding alien robots who are engaged in war. But maybe that&#8217;s just because on TV and in movies, I&#8217;ve seen Batman work on that level, but never for Transformers, which was always just alien robots engaged in war. </p>
<p>I do believe something interesting can be made from Transformers. I&#8217;m actually working on an article about it right now. My piece was meant mostly ironically. </p>
<p>Sidenote: TDK had its share of editing problems too. But I digress.</p>
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		<title>By: russellhainline</title>
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		<dc:creator>russellhainline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically, lol.</description>
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		<title>By: DrJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I think &quot;The Dark Knight&quot; basically negates your whole argument.

TDK&#039;s a great action movie that also offers competent film making fundamentals and it&#039;s one of the biggest movies of all-time.

People are rushing to see Transformers because it&#039;s giant robots fighting each other.  They would&#039;ve loved it just as much (more?) if there was a coherent story and decent writing wrapped around those fighting robots.

Bay shouldn&#039;t get an ounce of credit for his sloppy, lazy, pandering work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I think &#8220;The Dark Knight&#8221; basically negates your whole argument.</p>
<p>TDK&#8217;s a great action movie that also offers competent film making fundamentals and it&#8217;s one of the biggest movies of all-time.</p>
<p>People are rushing to see Transformers because it&#8217;s giant robots fighting each other.  They would&#8217;ve loved it just as much (more?) if there was a coherent story and decent writing wrapped around those fighting robots.</p>
<p>Bay shouldn&#8217;t get an ounce of credit for his sloppy, lazy, pandering work.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(even though it grossed a lot of money)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(even though it grossed a lot of money)</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you not name Pearl Harbor in #7 because both critics AND audiences hated it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you not name Pearl Harbor in #7 because both critics AND audiences hated it?</p>
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		<title>By: russellhainline</title>
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		<dc:creator>russellhainline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I agree, Neal, it doesn&#039;t let Bay off the hook at all. It was meant mostly ironically, but I was taking offense to the critical stance that Bay is out of touch by believing these characters are out of whack with the youth culture of today. It is extremely sad, but these characters in my experience in the theater are indeed in touch with that youth culture. 

I agree that it&#039;s both sad and a waste. Like I said, I LOVE the Bay film &quot;The Island,&quot; and I recommend it to you if you haven&#039;t seen it. And a large part of me is sad that Bay gave the audiences a film with thrills and content, and that the audiences rejected it, persuading Bay to return to non-stop story-free thrills. Bay is absolutely at fault... but when we as audiences reject his better films, and then buy ten times as many tickets to Transformers, what can we expect him as a businessman to deliver? People like Bay are businessmen first, artists second, unfortunately. 

Also, I was just tired of reading the same Transformers snark in every review, and thought I&#039;d give y&#039;all something fresh, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I agree, Neal, it doesn&#8217;t let Bay off the hook at all. It was meant mostly ironically, but I was taking offense to the critical stance that Bay is out of touch by believing these characters are out of whack with the youth culture of today. It is extremely sad, but these characters in my experience in the theater are indeed in touch with that youth culture. </p>
<p>I agree that it&#8217;s both sad and a waste. Like I said, I LOVE the Bay film &#8220;The Island,&#8221; and I recommend it to you if you haven&#8217;t seen it. And a large part of me is sad that Bay gave the audiences a film with thrills and content, and that the audiences rejected it, persuading Bay to return to non-stop story-free thrills. Bay is absolutely at fault&#8230; but when we as audiences reject his better films, and then buy ten times as many tickets to Transformers, what can we expect him as a businessman to deliver? People like Bay are businessmen first, artists second, unfortunately. </p>
<p>Also, I was just tired of reading the same Transformers snark in every review, and thought I&#8217;d give y&#8217;all something fresh, lol.</p>
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